Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

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  • Ramaria2
    Soldier
    • Nov 2014
    • 248

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Originally posted by Pan_Man View Post
    So if you hit an 80 stamina hit the chances are for a 2 star Ace 16% for each stamina (80 times 16%) or 16% per hit? ?
    Would like to know this aswell. But from demo perspective using RC or poppy

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    • Cthulu
      Retired Game Guru
      • Dec 2014
      • 3377

      Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

      Originally posted by Pan_Man View Post
      So if you hit an 80 stamina hit the chances are for a 2 star Ace 16% for each stamina (80 times 16%) or 16% per hit? ?
      Good question? ould guess for the whole hit but that's just a guess - otherwise it's a guaranteed chance with 80x16%?

      Originally posted by corp5e View Post
      So this Event LT just became a boss hunter? 1*1.1X that's 10% increase damage right?
      For me, yes. I would never use this one for demo personally but plan on using her for bossfighting often.
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      • gunn123
        Lackey
        • Apr 2014
        • 6

        Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

        Has anyone else seen an issue with the drop rates? On an execution the probability should be 40% for stealing cards and 35% for a blue chip. I have only seen 5-10% success. Meaning out of 400+ executions I've missed like 360 times. I know there's an element of luck involved but this just seems ridiculous. Am I alone here?

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        • analytical
          Street Boss
          • Aug 2013
          • 773

          Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

          My wife used a level 50 squishy sniper to go from 3 coins to 7. She said she just farmed people with high levels than hers but none or 1 ally. She warred them all. Took her about 20 mins and 1 stam refills to get to 10 coins. "They think they can beat the system," she said.

          She's a very mean player, you guys already know that. It's her mission to humble people. She's just the best.
          Just a bit analytical.

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          • Ogre180
            Lieutenant
            • Aug 2013
            • 571

            Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

            Originally posted by yc2k1 View Post
            Please explain exactly how boss damage part of power works. Is it also x% chance to process on each boss hit? Do you also lose health? Or is it a straight 1.x damage every single hit with no health loss? If its the latter option this lt just went from a total dud to a rather nice stud at least when it comes to hitting bosses. Still completely useless to just about every player in EvE. No ghosts who use AR, accounts who might need health to defend can use her without hurting themselves more than the other team. And for demo she is way underpowered compared to spectre or all the standard damage boosting LTs who dont come with the health loss. So please let us know how boss damage part works bc that will make a huge difference in where i attempt to place.
            The way I interpret this is the LT has a set skill for EvE and a separate unrelated skill for Bosses.

            There is a period after the initial LT skill and the boss damage multiplier starts a new sentence.

            To me this means that this LT will give a straight 1.1x boss damage on all hits. If it doesn't then I would like to see some clarification on it.

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            • alpha6776
              Goon
              • Nov 2015
              • 56

              Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

              I have one comment and two questions.

              Given that ten percent (10%) health leech when Ace procs is relatively high (especially in light of Spectre's five percent (5%) health leech), I would suggest that Ace's leech takes first from attacker's armor and then directly from health if attacker had no armor or not enough armor to absorb leech.

              First, how does Ace work with Red Countess ("RC")? I understand that Ace's damage is not buffed by RC's damage, but does spending two tokens with RC double the chance that Ace Proc's?

              Second, does crit chance (either through use of a crit chance LT like Alpha or crit chance insignias) positively affect Ace's proc rate from that in her description?

              Thanks.

              Duke:
              1.RC/Poppy wont double the chance, and Ace wont proc twice in one hit.
              2.No, Ace's skill is not a kind of crit.
              Last edited by UWE_Duke; 06-20-2017, 09:34 AM.

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              • tambunan
                Enforcer
                • Feb 2016
                • 373

                Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                probably the number 7 of duke post was referring to the boss damage part, so probably it had the same chance as health sacrifice/removing part. But dunno if it also remove the health or not..

                Duke: Will remove your hp
                Last edited by UWE_Duke; 06-20-2017, 09:35 AM.

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                • yc2k1
                  Lackey
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 17

                  Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                  It would really be nice if we could get an answer on how exactly the boss damage part works. I am going to be extremely upset if i push for top 300 and waste the money getting a second copy if the boss damage only works x% of the time and the health loss applies. Right now its all complete guess work until we get an answer. And if we wait until we get a copy to test her, its already to late. So please, a response before event finishes would be really nice.

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                  • tambunan
                    Enforcer
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 373

                    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                    Well, mathematically (this if i was not mistaken lol) 10% chance to deal 10% more was the same as "1% boost all the time" in average return of course, unless you had some really really good luck.

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                    • alexian
                      Moderator
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 2478

                      Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                      Originally posted by socool View Post
                      @Duke : Could you explain it clearer the update on the LT skill. I assume, according to the wording , I guess It is a flat bonus to any damage done to bosses ? Heavily upgraded Lucas sort of ability ?

                      Otherwise, x % chance to sacrifice 10% of health , and deal 1.x times of that amount of bosses makes no sense to me.

                      Please advise.

                      Duke: The Whole hit gets bonus(Duke lost his password at home, he let me to answer you lol)
                      Originally posted by Elise View Post
                      mini crit~ See #83
                      Originally posted by yc2k1 View Post
                      It would really be nice if we could get an answer on how exactly the boss damage part works. I am going to be extremely upset if i push for top 300 and waste the money getting a second copy if the boss damage only works x% of the time and the health loss applies. Right now its all complete guess work until we get an answer. And if we wait until we get a copy to test her, its already to late. So please, a response before event finishes would be really nice.
                      From both of Elise's answers I understand, for bosses:
                      1. the bonus damage is only when she activates (according to her number of stars).
                      2. the bonus damage is to the complete hit, no matter if you use 1 or 5 or 80 stamina.

                      I don't have a clue what that "see #83" is. Post number? There is none on mobile site, need to recheck on pc tomorrow...

                      Ha, in original thread it specifically says you have a chance for the bonus to aplly in bosses.

                      From what I read, still open questions:
                      1. on a 80 stamina hit she has 1 or 80 chances to activate? (Personally I think its 1 chance, that's how it applies to whole damage).
                      Duke: 1 chance

                      2. RC / Poppy gives double chances to activate? (Personal opinion: in bosses, see above / in EvE? I don't know, should work as Spectre + RC, though).
                      Duke: No

                      3. Do you lose first armor and afterwards health? (Personal opinion: yes, but most likely she will work as Spectre).
                      Duke: No, you will lose hp directly. but target lose armor at first.

                      4. Critical chance insignias increase her chance to activate? That is a good question and I like to know the answer for other lts as well, for instance Valkyrie.
                      Duke: No, her skill is not a kind of crit, so crit chance skills/LTs wont buff it.
                      Last edited by alexian; 06-20-2017, 11:07 AM.
                      48BE8B

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                      • Ramaria2
                        Soldier
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 248

                        Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                        Why isent a dev responding to the questions asked?

                        We need a clearification.

                        People are ready to spend more if we get any kind of confirmation.

                        Lack of information renders less money because we cant properly value the product.

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                        • Ramaria2
                          Soldier
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 248

                          Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                          How about a small bribe lol? Devs answer and I by yet another vip and aim for top 75?

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                          • UWE_Duke
                            Developer
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 705

                            Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                            Originally posted by Ogre180 View Post
                            The way I interpret this is the LT has a set skill for EvE and a separate unrelated skill for Bosses.

                            There is a period after the initial LT skill and the boss damage multiplier starts a new sentence.

                            To me this means that this LT will give a straight 1.1x boss damage on all hits. If it doesn't then I would like to see some clarification on it.
                            Boss damage bonus part share chance with sacrifice part, check my tips(no.7). Thanks.

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                            • UWE_Duke
                              Developer
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 705

                              Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                              Originally posted by yc2k1 View Post
                              It would really be nice if we could get an answer on how exactly the boss damage part works. I am going to be extremely upset if i push for top 300 and waste the money getting a second copy if the boss damage only works x% of the time and the health loss applies. Right now its all complete guess work until we get an answer. And if we wait until we get a copy to test her, its already to late. So please, a response before event finishes would be really nice.
                              Check tip7, it shares chance with sacrifice part.

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                              • socool
                                Goon
                                • May 2014
                                • 87

                                Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

                                Originally posted by UWE_Duke View Post
                                Check tip7, it shares chance with sacrifice part.
                                Duke, I'm pretty sure one of your colleague used your account, responded to me early in this thread, that the damage is a bonus to any damage done to boss (Without the chance part) check my post on page 5. Because otherwise, It is even weaker than Reaper and Hyena at low stars If you calculate average damage gained. Specter has the exact ability If counted this way, x % chance to sacrifice x % HP to gain damage.

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