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[DvEight]

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Do you know what effective attack and effective defense are?

In your example player a would have an effective defense of 700 and player b would have an effective attack of about 900. Player b would win if they attacked player a

[theEnd]

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Do you know what effective attack and effective defense are?

No I do not. Can you explain them to me?

[DvEight]

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Effective attack (eAtk) is your attack stat plus 70% of your defense.
Effective defense (eDef) is your defense stat plus 70% of your attack

[theEnd]

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Effective attack (eAtk) is your attack stat plus 70% of your defense.
Effective defense (eDef) is your defense stat plus 70% of your attack

Interesting, thanks. Where did this come from?

[Marco The Cheeseburger]

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Effective attack (eAtk) is your attack stat plus 70% of your defense.
Effective defense (eDef) is your defense stat plus 70% of your attack

Huh. This explains something about how I'm able to beat players with higher attack than me.

[DvEight]

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Interesting, thanks. Where did this come from?

I dunno, I'm sure if you search around you can find a post with someone that posesses the credibility you speak of. Maybe check the castle age forums. I played that game for a couple years and this for just about a year now.

[Static]

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http://underworldempireforums.com/showthread.php?994-Item-amp-Class-Guide

This thread has the attack and defense formulas

[Static]

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Search for the thread class guide. It's an old one, slayer posted the attack and defense formulas there

I tried providing a link but a mod has to approve first

[Vincent]

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Update.

Now at level 267.

E=324
S=275
A=634
D=635
H=258

Thoughts on where to go from here?

You are so strong oh mighty cheeseburger.

[YIATY]

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You are so strong oh mighty cheeseburger.

You too, oh wait....

My news feed has looked like this for almost 2 weeks now.









I just wasn't sure because to me it seemed like farming...

[Voodoo jester]

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I view builds that are pure attack and no defense to be the weakest because of their lack of defense. 5:0.. might as well say all attack and no defense. A level 10 could probably roll over a build with no defense.

Ok the end ideal build for sniper is 4:1 ideal for assassin is 3:2, heavy 2:3 and enforcer 1:4 this gives you pvp strength and allows you to do damage to bosses without being either a) beat up too bead or b) having to spend lots stamina.

Also dv8 is right 70% of the stat not being used is added to the stat being used so... For your example you post below

Player A:
Attack: 1000
Defense: 0

Player B:
Attack: 699
Defense: 301


Player a effective defense is 700
Player b effective attack = 909.7

So player a would still lose to player b.
but player a is still able to beat player b back because

Player a effective attack = 1000
Player b effective defense = 790

So player a wins.. Avg both players effective attacks and defenses and you'll see that player a has the stronger build over all than player b

[Marco The Cheeseburger]

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Interesting, but I'd like your opinion on how my build is set up ATM, and any strengths/weaknesses associated with it.

[eti]

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Ok the end ideal build for sniper is 4:1 ideal for assassin is 3:2, heavy 2:3 and enforcer 1:4 this gives you pvp strength and allows you to do damage to bosses without being either a) beat up too bead or b) having to spend lots stamina.

Also dv8 is right 70% of the stat not being used is added to the stat being used so... For your example you post below

Player A:
Attack: 1000
Defense: 0

Player B:
Attack: 699
Defense: 301


Player a effective defense is 700
Player b effective attack = 909.7

So player a would still lose to player b.
but player a is still able to beat player b back because

Player a effective attack = 1000
Player b effective defense = 790

So player a wins.. Avg both players effective attacks and defenses and you'll see that player a has the stronger build over all than player b

I disagree with your conclusion, both players are as much effective since both eatk and edef sum will be 1700. The only thing that influence its effectiveness is your playstyle.

[Voodoo jester]

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I disagree with your conclusion, both players are as much effective since both eatk and edef sum will be 1700. The only thing that influence its effectiveness is your playstyle.

Player a is at 850
Player b is at 849.8 when avged so player a is stronger not by much

This is just with the facts given.. There are other things that have to be taken into account..

Classes, gear, lts.. If you want an eve comparison then you have the class passives and building bonus, lt powers... It goes one

[eti]

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Player a is at 850
Player b is at 849.8 when avged so player a is stronger not by much

This is just with the facts given.. There are other things that have to be taken into account..

Classes, gear, lts.. If you want an eve comparison then you have the class passives and building bonus, lt powers... It goes one

This is false, both have 850 avg when you calculate it right :
0,7*699+301=790.3
0.7*301+699=909.7
Total : 1700

Since every skill point spent in atk/def will give 0,85 avg, there is no best way to spend them more efficiently