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  1. #41

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    My guess would be that since it uses different mechanics, that Fierce would act independently of any LTs (avoiding the Layla-Francesca issue). If the clouds part and a ray of light brings you the luck to have everyone proc at once then it’s time to go buy a lottery ticket.

    Early on Duke said they would work on a sidekick for defenders at some future point. So attackers feel free to stick up on Fierce and don’t lose heart defenders, there will hopefully be a rescue in your future.

    And I don’t consider Fierce a waste for demo accounts. I’m a Terminator and when I do hit people, he will be a welcome added effect to have.
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  2. #42

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    I have a question. In the picture it says Hunt Sidekicks (3x) - 50 collars, but if I pay the 15 fp I don't get additional 50 collars. All I got was the 10 collars per hunt.
    Is it something that I am not seeing? How it should work?

  3. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Have to throw a bit of defense up for the devs here and ask if buildings have tokens? Cause if they did then you could “steal” them. You didnt have to do any hunts yet anyways. I havent and i definitely wouldnt knowing the wording should give pause if you were wanting this sidekick for demo. As far as the stealing tokens from people its fairly easy to negate cause if you spend them they cant be stolen. Besides the fact that if you had this sidekick starred even up to 11 percent you would probably only get 4-6 procs in a whole match. I dont think the skill is over powered or unfair to any particular class. Im sorry if this seems like im flaming you or something but i try and be fair and i dont think your arguments are very reasonable. I dont think this this is an event epic either as ive seen someone who got one from a free hunt already.
    Yes, I had to, to be effective. 3x hunt for 10fp, then 3x for 35. Both still better than 50collars for 70fp. And I had to get 100 bones first 5 hours of event to craft both Fierce and Vega. Unfortunately, 55 bones lost somewhere between been obtained from jobs and my inventory. No hope that support will reapond in time (they still keeping silence about arena rewards didnt arrive))) So... And yes I've seen Fierce from free hunt, so its normal, that he proc selectively.

    We have precedents of "steals" without stealing, for example, PvP heist. And Game mechanics doesn't have to match with real life, otherwise we need to ruin half LT and class powers, like life stealing, etc, etc.

    Main idea is that we should get all event info before it starts. All mechanics, all abilities, all rewards descriptions... Maybe someone would want to miss a day for extra 50 bones, or not return in game after succesful war till event start, because he is in plstinum and winning one time per day, maybe get 100 bones first 5 hours. Im usually sleeping from 16PST till 0:00-01:00, so usually missing start.
    And boss related events should be announced 6 dsys before start, because many ppl losing slow kill bosses - or they fled, because of MMB, or they killed to fast, because of Casino etc

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulu View Post
    My guess would be that since it uses different mechanics, that Fierce would act independently of any LTs (avoiding the Layla-Francesca issue). If the clouds part and a ray of light brings you the luck to have everyone proc at once then it’s time to go buy a lottery ticket.

    Early on Duke said they would work on a sidekick for defenders at some future point. So attackers feel free to stick up on Fierce and don’t lose heart defenders, there will hopefully be a rescue in your future.

    And I don’t consider Fierce a waste for demo accounts. I’m a Terminator and when I do hit people, he will be a welcome added effect to have.
    I have double Francesca/Layla + Frank proc almost everyday, so I think we will see if Fierce proc independently or not. Like we've seen his drop from free hunt, that cancelled his probably event status.

    Demo is demo, not terminator. And you surely know, that in top fights, heavy weapons and titans 90% time demoing and enforcers 100% stimming and demoing. As terminator I almost allways demo too. Now time to turn into basement gremlin, i guess))
    Last edited by Newwo; 03-02-2018 at 08:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexian View Post
    I have a question. In the picture it says Hunt Sidekicks (3x) - 50 collars, but if I pay the 15 fp I don't get additional 50 collars. All I got was the 10 collars per hunt.
    Is it something that I am not seeing? How it should work?
    I know what you mean.
    I saw it in picture too.
    Hunt Sidekicks (3x) - 50 collars = Get 50 collars from breath of the wild event aka pay 70 FP
    You also get 100 bones.
    If you buy 15 FP hunts you only get 10 extra collars per hunt, 3 x 10 =30
    Last edited by Mobile Mob; 03-02-2018 at 09:44 AM.

  6. #46

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    Ive got a question since ive never actually bought any hunts. The 70 fp hunt (huntX3) technically gives you 9 hunts right? (if a hunt has 3 then 3 hunts must have 9 right?)So if you buy that one you would get 100 bones and 140 collars (90 from hunts 50 from buying it) correct? This is to make it on par with buying just one hunt that will give you 30 for 15 fp (basically 1fp=2collars) Are my assumptions correct?

  7. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobile Mob View Post
    I know what you mean.
    I saw it in picture too.
    Hunt Sidekicks (3x) - 50 collars = Get 50 collars from breath of the wild event aka pay 70 FP
    You also get 100 bones.
    If you buy 15 FP hunts you only get 10 extra collars per hunt, 3 x 10 =30
    Oh, cool. So you're getting 50 collars and 100 bones for 70 fp? that's more real. Tyvm for info. I need 5 extra bones)) Or its those 100 bones, that you had to get from jobs/bosses? Or spent 700 fp you'll get 1000 bones?

    P. S. That's what i was talking about, is there official info about it? Only about 50 collars for 3x paid hunt on banner.
    Last edited by Newwo; 03-02-2018 at 02:57 PM.

  8. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Ive got a question since ive never actually bought any hunts. The 70 fp hunt (huntX3) technically gives you 9 hunts right? (if a hunt has 3 then 3 hunts must have 9 right?)So if you buy that one you would get 100 bones and 140 collars (90 from hunts 50 from buying it) correct? This is to make it on par with buying just one hunt that will give you 30 for 15 fp (basically 1fp=2collars) Are my assumptions correct?
    Please can someone clarify the above so we have visibility on the FP cost for Fierce.
    Aka - am I better off buying 5 3x hunts at 15 FP each (5*15= 75FP, with a return of 150 collars), or buying the wildhunt (is it a 50 collar bonus on top of the 10 for each hunt?)

    thanks in advance

  9. #49

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    This is super confusing how many collars per hunt?

  10. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by aNYth1ng View Post
    This is super confusing how many collars per hunt?
    10 collars per hunt. Even if you pay the 15fp for 3x. You get only 3 hunts, so 30 collars.
    If you do the "wild hunt" hunts, which is 5 hunts for 70 fp you apparently get 50 collars and 100 bones.

    Detailed:
    Free Hunts:
    Hunt 1 - 10 collars
    Hunt 2 - 10 collars
    Hunt 3 - 10 collars
    15 fp 3x Hunts:
    Hunt 1 - 10 collars
    Hunt 2 - 10 collars
    Hunt 3 - 10 collars
    40 fp 3x Hunts:
    Hunt 1 - 10 collars
    Hunt 2 - 10 collars
    Hunt 3 - 10 collars
    (allabove tested by me)
    70 fp 3x Hunts...

    70 fp Wild Hunt 5 Hunts
    Click and get 50 collars and 100 bones (not tested personally, but it looks like this)
    Last edited by alexian; 03-02-2018 at 06:06 PM.

  11. #51

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    I crafted Poach 5 lvl first day, so its 10+35 fp for extra 60 collars per day, which is still cheaper, than 70fp for 50 collars. need 5*10fp hunts +2*35fp hunts.

    Any chance to know definetely - is it 50 collars for every 70fp or 50 collars + 100 bones?

  12. #52

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    I trust Cthulu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulu View Post
    50 collars and 100 bones
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  13. #53

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    [QUOTE=alexian;180342]I trust Cthulu:
    Yeah i believe when you buy the 70 fp hunt (huntX3) you get 100 bones and 50 collars. I think you get that just for purchasing it. My real question is how many actualy hunts does that give you? Does it only give 3? Does it give 9? Does it give some other random number?

  14. #54

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    It gives you 3 immediate hunts (like a triple crate roll)
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  15. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newwo View Post
    Yes, I had to, to be effective. 3x hunt for 10fp, then 3x for 35. Both still better than 50collars for 70fp. And I had to get 100 bones first 5 hours of event to craft both Fierce and Vega. Unfortunately, 55 bones lost somewhere between been obtained from jobs and my inventory. No hope that support will reapond in time (they still keeping silence about arena rewards didnt arrive))) So... And yes I've seen Fierce from free hunt, so its normal, that he proc selectively.

    We have precedents of "steals" without stealing, for example, PvP heist. And Game mechanics doesn't have to match with real life, otherwise we need to ruin half LT and class powers, like life stealing, etc, etc.

    Main idea is that we should get all event info before it starts. All mechanics, all abilities, all rewards descriptions... Maybe someone would want to miss a day for extra 50 bones, or not return in game after succesful war till event start, because he is in plstinum and winning one time per day, maybe get 100 bones first 5 hours. Im usually sleeping from 16PST till 0:00-01:00, so usually missing start.
    And boss related events should be announced 6 dsys before start, because many ppl losing slow kill bosses - or they fled, because of MMB, or they killed to fast, because of Casino etc
    Hey you know what i pride myself on being fair and admitting when i am wrong and you sir were correct. My apologies. I had never actually bought any hunts so i didnt realize that you could only buy 1 extra set of hunts per day @15fp and then you can buy one extra set @40fp. I also didnt realize that the hunt X3 @70fp only gives you 3 sidekicks and 50 collars and 100 bones. To complete the event in the cheapest way possible and recieve fierce you basically HAD to buy the extra set each day of the event or pay more in the long run. Its funny because i have 5 toons and they all have 850 bones and 360 collars and if the price was somewhere around 70-100fp i would have completed the event on each one but i wont at the current price especially because i was unaware of the mechanics and now it will cost me more than it would have if i had known. Adding to that that duke said they will pull the sidekick from the regular pool of sidekicks after the event. Which im sure they thought would make it seem “exclusive” but to me just seems harder to star up from its initial 1% proc rate. I Appreciate the vega though and hope we have better info going forward.

  16. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexian View Post
    All who didnt actually spend 2*70 fp at once, say 50c + 100b, but that one who spent said only 50 collars. there was guess, that 100 bones coming with 70fp hunt are same, which you getting from jobs/bosses. Meaning max 100 bones daily from jobs/bosses/pvp/paid hunts...

    I need 5 bones, cause lost 55 somehow, and dont believe in support's help))) but spend 70fp for nothing.... my inner miser will kill me)))

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    Tell us the mechanics for ALL events in future, i would have bought the hunts on all my toons, would of made more money for you guys....

  18. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newwo View Post
    ...that 100 bones coming with 70fp hunt are same, which you getting from jobs/bosses. Meaning max 100 bones daily from jobs/bosses/pvp/paid hunts...
    Wow, that is good info. I am short of 45 bones myself, so I guess paying 70 fp is no use. Thanks for info.

  19. #59

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    I don’t think that’s accurate, I did my 70 FP hunt in the middle of the day and received my 100 bones over and above the daily grind. Otherwise it’s impossible to get more than 500 total bones during this event which is clearly untrue. I had 811 bones this morning and made Fierce and Vega.
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  20. #60

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    For clarity, if you hit the 3x Hunt for 70 FP it will give you 50 collars and 100 bones.

    It does not work if you do the regular 1x +3 hunts


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