Beast Tamer

[Cthulu]

Re: Beast Tamer

Quick details: Fierce doesn’t work on demo but does work with attacks on players (even ones with secondary effects). With attacks that have splash effects it only affects the initial target. Fierce will work on executions but will not work on stims. He does in fact steal tokens if the target has one and should work with Frank, Francesca, and Layla.

[Irish]

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Thank you baby jesus

[DKs]

Re: Beast Tamer

Quick details: Fierce doesn’t work on demo but does work with attacks on players (even ones with secondary effects). With attacks that have splash effects it only affects the initial target. Fierce will work on executions but will not work on stims. He does in fact steal tokens if the target has one and should work with Frank, Francesca, and Layla.

Thanks for the info, Cthulu.

[Markz1337]

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Apparently I got Vega from a hunt, did anyone else?

[alexian]

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Apparently I got Vega from a hunt, did anyone else?

Vega and Buckeye were a possible hunt previously, also. Nice hunt, nonetheless 👍
http://underworldempireforums.com//showthread.php?38610-Community-Sidekick-Hunting-Guide


Only Fierce would be the only new one, although, according to the wording, it would be possible to hunt him as well, these days (but I doubt it).

[Newwo]

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Quick details: Fierce doesn’t work on demo but does work with attacks on players (even ones with secondary effects). With attacks that have splash effects it only affects the initial target. Fierce will work on executions but will not work on stims. He does in fact steal tokens if the target has one and should work with Frank, Francesca, and Layla.

What a nice surprise in the middle of the event, especially since I only demo and already spent fp on hunts to get useless animal. So how can get back my fp and I'll surely return those 9 common animals, I was honored to receive?

Saying "work" you meant "proc" or what? A question is will we get 3 tokens on simultaneous proc 1 from Frank, +1 from Layla/Francesca, +1 from Fierce? As we all know Francesca and Layla can't proc simultaneously, though technically they have different abilities - "always proc" vs "on win proc". Interesting that "event epic" animal has worse ability, than uncommon Layla.

And my congratulations to the main empire's defenders - now you may not worry about your tokens, opponent's attackers will take care of them)))

[Irish]

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What a nice surprise in the middle of the event, especially since I only demo and already spent fp on hunts to get useless animal. So how can get back my fp and I'll surely return those 9 common animals, I was honored to receive?

Saying "work" you meant "proc" or what? A question is will we get 3 tokens on simultaneous proc 1 from Frank, +1 from Layla/Francesca, +1 from Fierce? As we all know Francesca and Layla can't proc simultaneously, though technically they have different abilities - "always proc" vs "on win proc". Interesting that "event epic" animal has worse ability, than uncommon Layla.

And my congratulations to the main empire's defenders - now you may not worry about your tokens, opponent's attackers will take care of them)))

Have to throw a bit of defense up for the devs here and ask if buildings have tokens? Cause if they did then you could “steal†them. You didnt have to do any hunts yet anyways. I havent and i definitely wouldnt knowing the wording should give pause if you were wanting this sidekick for demo. As far as the stealing tokens from people its fairly easy to negate cause if you spend them they cant be stolen. Besides the fact that if you had this sidekick starred even up to 11 percent you would probably only get 4-6 procs in a whole match. I dont think the skill is over powered or unfair to any particular class. Im sorry if this seems like im flaming you or something but i try and be fair and i dont think your arguments are very reasonable. I dont think this this is an event epic either as ive seen someone who got one from a free hunt already.

[Squiffle]

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Only Fierce would be the only new one, although, according to the wording, it would be possible to hunt him as well, these days (but I doubt it).

Somebody on Discord said that they had Fierce drop from a regular hunt.

[Quaranj]

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Confirmed to drop from regular hunt. Reports from the lucky have occurred. Confirmation on whether they stay in the loot pool post-event is still pending. One Duke says yes, another says no.

I would like to see all of them in the drop pool after introduction tbh. It will still take luck and likely month of hunting for many to complete the drop collection anyway.

[Cthulu]

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My guess would be that since it uses different mechanics, that Fierce would act independently of any LTs (avoiding the Layla-Francesca issue). If the clouds part and a ray of light brings you the luck to have everyone proc at once then it’s time to go buy a lottery ticket.

Early on Duke said they would work on a sidekick for defenders at some future point. So attackers feel free to stick up on Fierce and don’t lose heart defenders, there will hopefully be a rescue in your future.

And I don’t consider Fierce a waste for demo accounts. I’m a Terminator and when I do hit people, he will be a welcome added effect to have.

[alexian]

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I have a question. In the picture it says Hunt Sidekicks (3x) - 50 collars, but if I pay the 15 fp I don't get additional 50 collars. All I got was the 10 collars per hunt.
Is it something that I am not seeing? How it should work?

[Newwo]

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Have to throw a bit of defense up for the devs here and ask if buildings have tokens? Cause if they did then you could “steal†them. You didnt have to do any hunts yet anyways. I havent and i definitely wouldnt knowing the wording should give pause if you were wanting this sidekick for demo. As far as the stealing tokens from people its fairly easy to negate cause if you spend them they cant be stolen. Besides the fact that if you had this sidekick starred even up to 11 percent you would probably only get 4-6 procs in a whole match. I dont think the skill is over powered or unfair to any particular class. Im sorry if this seems like im flaming you or something but i try and be fair and i dont think your arguments are very reasonable. I dont think this this is an event epic either as ive seen someone who got one from a free hunt already.

Yes, I had to, to be effective. 3x hunt for 10fp, then 3x for 35. Both still better than 50collars for 70fp. And I had to get 100 bones first 5 hours of event to craft both Fierce and Vega. Unfortunately, 55 bones lost somewhere between been obtained from jobs and my inventory. No hope that support will reapond in time (they still keeping silence about arena rewards didnt arrive))) So... And yes I've seen Fierce from free hunt, so its normal, that he proc selectively.

We have precedents of "steals" without stealing, for example, PvP heist. And Game mechanics doesn't have to match with real life, otherwise we need to ruin half LT and class powers, like life stealing, etc, etc.

Main idea is that we should get all event info before it starts. All mechanics, all abilities, all rewards descriptions... Maybe someone would want to miss a day for extra 50 bones, or not return in game after succesful war till event start, because he is in plstinum and winning one time per day, maybe get 100 bones first 5 hours. Im usually sleeping from 16PST till 0:00-01:00, so usually missing start.
And boss related events should be announced 6 dsys before start, because many ppl losing slow kill bosses - or they fled, because of MMB, or they killed to fast, because of Casino etc

[Newwo]

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My guess would be that since it uses different mechanics, that Fierce would act independently of any LTs (avoiding the Layla-Francesca issue). If the clouds part and a ray of light brings you the luck to have everyone proc at once then it’s time to go buy a lottery ticket.

Early on Duke said they would work on a sidekick for defenders at some future point. So attackers feel free to stick up on Fierce and don’t lose heart defenders, there will hopefully be a rescue in your future.

And I don’t consider Fierce a waste for demo accounts. I’m a Terminator and when I do hit people, he will be a welcome added effect to have.

I have double Francesca/Layla + Frank proc almost everyday, so I think we will see if Fierce proc independently or not. Like we've seen his drop from free hunt, that cancelled his probably event status.

Demo is demo, not terminator. And you surely know, that in top fights, heavy weapons and titans 90% time demoing and enforcers 100% stimming and demoing. As terminator I almost allways demo too. Now time to turn into basement gremlin, i guess))

[Irish]

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Ive got a question since ive never actually bought any hunts. The 70 fp hunt (huntX3) technically gives you 9 hunts right? (if a hunt has 3 then 3 hunts must have 9 right?)So if you buy that one you would get 100 bones and 140 collars (90 from hunts 50 from buying it) correct? This is to make it on par with buying just one hunt that will give you 30 for 15 fp (basically 1fp=2collars) Are my assumptions correct?

[Newwo]

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I know what you mean.
I saw it in picture too.
Hunt Sidekicks (3x) - 50 collars = Get 50 collars from breath of the wild event aka pay 70 FP
You also get 100 bones.
If you buy 15 FP hunts you only get 10 extra collars per hunt, 3 x 10 =30

Oh, cool. So you're getting 50 collars and 100 bones for 70 fp? that's more real. Tyvm for info. I need 5 extra bones)) Or its those 100 bones, that you had to get from jobs/bosses? Or spent 700 fp you'll get 1000 bones?

P. S. That's what i was talking about, is there official info about it? Only about 50 collars for 3x paid hunt on banner.