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  • Mobile Mob
    Lieutenant
    • May 2016
    • 511

    Epic threshold percentage

    Hi UWE_DUKE,
    Total Boss Point is around 1M for Underworld Boss!
    boss points.............Shadow Alloy chance
    8.68%....................50%_1
    18.72%..................100%_1
    26.87%..................100%_1, 50% another 1
    35.09%..................100%_2
    47.55%..................100%_2, 50% another 1
    60.00%..................100%_3

    Put us out of our misery and give us the threshold percentage for epic rewards chance for example:
    Total Boss Point is around 600,000 for Phoenix resurrection (example)
    boss points.............Epic rewards chance
    ????%....................50%_1 epic reward
    ?????%..................100%_1 epic reward
    ?????%..................100%_1, 50% another 1 epic reward
    ?????%..................100%_2 epic reward
    ?????%..................100%_2, 50% another 1 epic reward
    ?????%..................100%_3 epic reward

    My guess is the percentage is the same for all bosses?
    We(community) will calculate the epic threshold if you can just give us the %.
    Thank you in advance.
    Mobile Mobster
    Last edited by Mobile Mob; 09-01-2017, 06:59 AM. Reason: add string
  • Ethan
    Lackey
    • Apr 2017
    • 22

    #2
    Re: Epic threshold percentage

    This is similar to something I posted in another thread I more or less just wanted a confirmation that the thresholds are set up similar in other bosses, my suspicion is that it is and really up to the community if they want to refine the thresholds further or stick with what we got and works we don't need exact numbers/percentages

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    • Mobile Mob
      Lieutenant
      • May 2016
      • 511

      #3
      Re: Epic threshold percentage

      Originally posted by Ethan View Post
      This is similar to something I posted in another thread I more or less just wanted a confirmation that the thresholds are set up similar in other bosses, my suspicion is that it is and really up to the community if they want to refine the thresholds further or stick with what we got and works we don't need exact numbers/percentages
      I read your post.
      Did you you get an answer to your question??

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      • UWE_Duke
        Developer
        • Jul 2016
        • 705

        #4
        Re: Epic threshold percentage

        Originally posted by Mobile Mob View Post
        Hi UWE_DUKE,
        Total Boss Point is around 1M for Underworld Boss!
        boss points.............Shadow Alloy chance
        8.68%....................50%_1
        18.72%..................100%_1
        26.87%..................100%_1, 50% another 1
        35.09%..................100%_2
        47.55%..................100%_2, 50% another 1
        60.00%..................100%_3

        Put us out of our misery and give us the threshold percentage for epic rewards chance for example:
        Total Boss Point is around 600,000 for Phoenix resurrection (example)
        boss points.............Epic rewards chance
        ????%....................50%_1 epic reward
        ?????%..................100%_1 epic reward
        ?????%..................100%_1, 50% another 1 epic reward
        ?????%..................100%_2 epic reward
        ?????%..................100%_2, 50% another 1 epic reward
        ?????%..................100%_3 epic reward

        My guess is the percentage is the same for all bosses?
        We(community) will calculate the epic threshold if you can just give us the %.
        Thank you in advance.
        Mobile Mobster
        They are similar but not the same. The situation is pretty complicated, I can't tell you everything here but I could give u some advice:
        AP = average points = total points/max participants
        Generally, hit over 50% AP = You get the first chance(pretty low) to receive legendary items, more points higher chance.
        For Legend Bosses, the threshold is 75% AP.

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        • Mobile Mob
          Lieutenant
          • May 2016
          • 511

          #5
          Re: Epic threshold percentage

          Originally posted by UWE_Duke View Post
          They are similar but not the same. The situation is pretty complicated, I can't tell you everything here but I could give u some advice:
          AP = average points = total points/max participants
          Generally, hit over 50% AP = You get the first chance(pretty low) to receive legendary items, more points higher chance.
          For Legend Bosses, the threshold is 75% AP.
          Thank you Duke.
          I appreciate your help and input.

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          • Cthulu
            Retired Game Guru
            • Dec 2014
            • 3377

            #6
            Re: Epic threshold percentage

            Originally posted by UWE_Duke View Post
            They are similar but not the same. The situation is pretty complicated, I can't tell you everything here but I could give u some advice:
            AP = average points = total points/max participants
            Generally, hit over 50% AP = You get the first chance(pretty low) to receive legendary items, more points higher chance.
            For Legend Bosses, the threshold is 75% AP.
            Is it possible to over-hit a boss? i.e. Or can I start solo-killing bosses and have the best chance of dropping legendary items?

            And thank you so much for this info!
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            • Xcali1985
              Head Boss
              • Jun 2013
              • 1623

              #7
              Re: Epic threshold percentage

              Originally posted by Cthulu View Post
              Is it possible to over-hit a boss? i.e. Or can I start solo-killing bosses and have the best chance of dropping legendary items?

              And thank you so much for this info!
              Basically finish in the upper portion of each boss for the best chance at legendaries.

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              • Mercurial
                Soldier
                • Mar 2016
                • 260

                #8
                Re: Epic threshold percentage

                I wonder if solo'ing a boss guarantees it?

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                • Mobile Mob
                  Lieutenant
                  • May 2016
                  • 511

                  #9
                  Re: Epic threshold percentage

                  Originally posted by Cthulu View Post
                  Is it possible to over-hit a boss? i.e. Or can I start solo-killing bosses and have the best chance of dropping legendary items?

                  And thank you so much for this info!
                  I found a very old (legendary) post explaining the Legendary weapon drop in detail:
                  Last edited by Mobile Mob; 09-04-2017, 09:04 AM. Reason: Created a new post explaining in detail

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                  • Mercurial
                    Soldier
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 260

                    #10
                    Re: Epic threshold percentage

                    They make these items almost impossible to get and most of them are worthless.

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                    • Irish
                      Brawler
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 222

                      #11
                      Re: Epic threshold percentage

                      Originally posted by UWE_Duke View Post
                      They are similar but not the same. The situation is pretty complicated, I can't tell you everything here but I could give u some advice:
                      AP = average points = total points/max participants
                      Generally, hit over 50% AP = You get the first chance(pretty low) to receive legendary items, more points higher chance.
                      For Legend Bosses, the threshold is 75% AP.
                      Duke,
                      Just wanted to make sure im understanding this correctly. So for example lets say the total points equal 1 million and there are 80 max participants. The average points would be 1,000,000/80= 12,500 points
                      So 50% of 12,500= 6,250 points
                      So I would need a minimum of 6,250 points to potentially receive a legendary item? And you said "you get the first chance to receive legendary items"....so im guessing a certain other thresholds the chance goes up, any insight to those numbers? Is any of my understanding incorrect in the above example?

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                      • alexian
                        Moderator
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 2478

                        #12
                        Re: Epic threshold percentage

                        Ofcourse it is unconfirmed, but I have a personal feeling that the more hitters are in the epic thresholds, the more chances there are of a possible legendary drop. And not because the individual chance is higher than 1%, but probably there is a number of epic rewards after which the legendary can be in the pot. Let's say the legendary appears after 50 epics, if there are not enough players to collect the previous 49 epic rewards, the legendary gear is not "unlocked".
                        This is just a personal experience, don't think of it as a way the game thinks.
                        48BE8B

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                        • Irish
                          Brawler
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 222

                          #13
                          Re: Epic threshold percentage

                          Never thought of it that way. I could see it being like this. Great insight👍

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                          • Quaranj
                            Boss
                            • May 2015
                            • 1352

                            #14
                            Re: Epic threshold percentage

                            My question is about the 75% AP.

                            Say max threshold is 100k points for the sake of argument. Someone hits for 400k. Does the 75% cap at threshold ceiling? (75k points) or did the overkiller just mess up everyone ELSEs drop pool by bumping it up to 300k?

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                            • tambunan
                              Enforcer
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 373

                              #15
                              Re: Epic threshold percentage

                              I got the impression duke means, hitting over 50% ap = 150% Average points, i don't know why i got that feeling so i could be wrong.

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