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Thread: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

  1. #41

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Unlike other EVE only epics Ace skills should be good for bosses and PVP as well. I mean come on! If we're going to fight for rank then make the reward worth it. Since many others have said this numerous times an event epic SHOULD be better then crate epics and releasing a limited EVE only epic just inst really worth fighting for since it caters to only ONE facet of the game. Why is there such a large disconnect between what the community wants and what you work on and deliver. Isn't the goal to create higher satisfaction = increased loyalty = spend more money. As a business, your goal is to make money while the player base goal is to have fun. why cant those two co-exist

    I have fond memories of the older event epics which are far more useful then the recent releases. Can we please return to the days when event epics were special and worth fighting/spending for.

  2. #42

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Im reading these examples and im still not sure how this ability works. You sacrifice 10 percent of your current health, then depending on the ratio of your levels(capped at 100%) you get that percent of of the lieutenants power which at 1 star is 10% of the defenders current health. Is this right?
    heres my questions:

    Does the level ratio have a bottom cap? If im level 100 and i go against a level 1000 does that mean my ratio is 1/10 and so my ability is only 10% of what my actual lieutenants power states? So in this case i would sacrifice 10% of my health and they would only lose 1%?

    If we are the same level but i have 2000 health and they have 20000 health does that mean i sacrifice 200 health and they recieve 2000 damage?

    Does it matter if i win or lose? Seems like a direct sacrifice for direct damage.

    Thanks for the help Duke.

  3. #43

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by 18xfortB View Post
    Unlike other EVE only epics Ace skills should be good for bosses and PVP as well. I mean come on! If we're going to fight for rank then make the reward worth it. Since many others have said this numerous times an event epic SHOULD be better then crate epics and releasing a limited EVE only epic just inst really worth fighting for since it caters to only ONE facet of the game. Why is there such a large disconnect between what the community wants and what you work on and deliver. Isn't the goal to create higher satisfaction = increased loyalty = spend more money. As a business, your goal is to make money while the player base goal is to have fun. why cant those two co-exist

    I have fond memories of the older event epics which are far more useful then the recent releases. Can we please return to the days when event epics were special and worth fighting/spending for.
    I'm really sick of this "EvE only" crap too and was going to say the same thing as you here earlier so I made a (long) post about it. Hope the devs take this into account for the next event LT after this one. These EvE only LTs aren't worth wasting fusion material on.

    And that's not to say that Ace's ability isn't good. I do think it's a decent ability. Possibly a stud for EvE. I just think there needs to be some secondary function that allows her to work at bosses, pvp, or jobs, or all 3. We're competing in the same events but for blatantly worse prizes than what we had in the past.

    Like when I first won Viper from 2015 Casino Royale, I thought she was pretty crappy compared to Vice, but hey at least I seat her with Joaquin/Gunner/Charon for my energy and Stamina generation. But oh man.. just looking at these new event LTs powers makes me cringe.

    http://underworldempireforums.com//s...ular-epic)-LTs
    Last edited by Bungboy; 06-15-2017 at 11:44 AM.

  4. #44

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    heres my questions:

    Does the level ratio have a bottom cap? If im level 100 and i go against a level 1000 does that mean my ratio is 1/10 and so my ability is only 10% of what my actual lieutenants power states? So in this case i would sacrifice 10% of my health and they would only lose 1%?

    If we are the same level but i have 2000 health and they have 20000 health does that mean i sacrifice 200 health and they recieve 2000 damage?

    Does it matter if i win or lose? Seems like a direct sacrifice for direct damage.
    1.No it doesn't.
    2.No, They receive 200 true damage.
    3.No matter if you win or lose.

  5. #45

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    I am afraid the extra damage per star (1%) is not worth losing 2 epics. Also I complained about this EvE only aspect. Remember Duke and Co. EvE, PvP, Boss hunting, PvE (energy). Having one epic cater to only one aspect is pointless.

  6. #46

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Babaju2 View Post
    I'm really sick of this "EvE only" crap too and was going to say the same thing as you here earlier so I made a (long) post about it. Hope the devs take this into account for the next event LT after this one. These EvE only LTs aren't worth wasting fusion material on.

    And that's not to say that Ace's ability isn't good. I do think it's a decent ability. Possibly a stud for EvE. I just think there needs to be some secondary function that allows her to work at bosses, pvp, or jobs, or all 3. We're competing in the same events but for blatantly worse prizes than what we had in the past.

    http://underworldempireforums.com//s...ular-epic)-LTs
    The ability can be great all around. I know that there would be balancing required in order to make everything work but based on the ability I think its totally doable and can and should be usable in other areas of the game. I have no doubt that would increase player spend as right now an lt like this is just for collectors or fusion fodder and thats a shame. An event epic used to mean something as in special and better then the ordinary that only a select few can attain. I fear the recent releases have gone a little too special and with the limited seats we have and much better Lts available even through crates this one is hardly lineup material.

    I believe they can make this LT a real winner for THIS EVENT if they just make it more versatile.
    On one hand the devs seemed to improve communication with the community but on the other hand I see the community makes some great logical recommendations telling them exactly what will make them happy but for some reason many of those suggestions go unanswered.

    One would think that all those posts (and thousands of other players who discuss this in the in-game chat rooms) regarding the past few event epics would trigger Devs to listen to the community.

  7. #47

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Ok so is this the description of the power?
    Sacrifice 10 percent of current health. Amount of health lost is taken away from the opponent based on the ratios between your levels.
    Example
    Equal level or above opponent all health lost is also lost by opponent. At 50% of opponents level only halfof damage sacrificed is lost by opponent.

    So really it doesnt matter how much health your opponent has it really matters how much health you have and what level each toon is. I think this is the first lieutenant that favors lsi

  8. #48

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Duke, assuming Situation 2 is a typo and "you" end up with 18,000 after miss not 8,000 correct?

  9. #49

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Ok so is this the description of the power?
    Sacrifice 10 percent of current health. Amount of health lost is taken away from the opponent based on the ratios between your levels.
    Example
    Equal level or above opponent all health lost is also lost by opponent. At 50% of opponents level only halfof damage sacrificed is lost by opponent.

    So really it doesnt matter how much health your opponent has it really matters how much health you have and what level each toon is. I think this is the first lieutenant that favors lsi
    Well said, Favors High Health / LSI / Suicidal High Health Deflect Toon, gives them more incentive to watch wars and hit healer ( It is very brutal when It procs on high health toon). Can one shot any healer with armors If you have like 25k HP at beginning, regardless of strength, only need the lt to proc.

  10. #50

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Seriously? 2 1/2 the chips cost as event lt and you get an item? 500 chips should be a Sin Lt. AND the deathwatch rifle. It's not too late to correct 👀😎👍🏻

  11. #51

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybird View Post
    Seriously? 2 1/2 the chips cost as event lt and you get an item? 500 chips should be a Sin Lt. AND the deathwatch rifle. It's not too late to correct 👀😎👍🏻
    Deathwatch rifle is cartel and Sin is syndicate lol. Should be a Muerte

  12. #52

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Seems the only logical thing to do is start a mini with the intent on maxing this LTs skills. Say an enforcer with 2000000 health to 1 shot healers and buildings😂😂😂😂

  13. #53

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Haven't had my coffee yet...

    Correction #1) It's 2 1/2 cost of epic crate roll not event lt. You can't even get event lt. with gold chips smh

    Correction #2) Lol, was thinking of Sins death pin. Anyway, Could be a Muerte or Strafe etc. point is wouldn't it be nice to get an epic LT plus weapon at a 2 1/2 cost of an epic crate roll?

  14. #54

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Massmurder View Post
    Seems the only logical thing to do is start a mini with the intent on maxing this LTs skills. Say an enforcer with 2000000 health to 1 shot healers and buildings��������
    Exactly what i intend to do if they say she works in pvp and battle royale hahaha, i'm gonna swith my full LSI to full health builds since it already used as meatshields - i don't mind pumping more to say 25-30k eve health lol

  15. #55

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Why only a non epic DEATH WATCH RIFLE for 500 coins. Most of us have probably already created one not needing a second and unable to stack. Seems like an epic weapon or something with lil more value for 500gd chips. I mean the threshhold before that is and epic crate. And half as many golds?

  16. #56

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Situation 2 would be:
    You = 18,000 health after the attack, not 8,000 correct?
    Target = 8,200 hp, not 7,000 hp

    Situation 3 seems a bit extravagent. Giving up 1,000 health so I can hit the building for 100 dmg....a little bit of a waste of health imo.
    Last edited by Expeditus; 06-15-2017 at 01:30 PM.

  17. #57

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    200 chips and done.

    P.s. 500 chips must be +2 epic (all builds/profs useful, not Azura :') ) or 350 - +1, 500 - +2...

  18. #58

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    1) Does the power work for booby trap?
    2) Does it work for time bomb?

  19. #59

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Newwo View Post
    200 chips and done.

    P.s. 500 chips must be +2 epic (all builds/profs useful, not Azura :') ) or 350 - +1, 500 - +2...
    Yes leads back to what i just said why such a pitiful reward at 500 gold chips. I mean come make people want to soend and get 500.

    **** possibly a crate roll with epic weapons instead of LTs!!!!*******

  20. #60

    Re: Casino Royale: Ace In The Hole! 6/15 12PM PDT

    Quote Originally Posted by Sour D View Post
    Why only a non epic DEATH WATCH RIFLE for 500 coins. Most of us have probably already created one not needing a second and unable to stack. Seems like an epic weapon or something with lil more value for 500gd chips. I mean the threshhold before that is and epic crate. And half as many golds?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    All speculation right now, as who knows what the LTs power actually is.

    500 chips for a deathwatch rifle is a bit of joke. Insignia's have the same impact. Perhaps swap in the event LT instead?
    .


    Just fix this. Please. Make it worth 500 gold. Not a mear constuctable weapon. Which is none epic. And highest tier in gold chips. Gimme a break UE.

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