Quick question

[RoadB]

We all know in eve if hq or armory falls. They lose tokens and get 5 min. Tokens.

But now somebody on my team claims. If we destroy armory after dropping hq or the opposite they lose again tokens. I dont believe this.


Is this true??!!

Thanks

[Ҝιττү]

Re: Quick question

If the Armory or HQ falls, whichever comes first, the token counter will become 5:00 and a portion of the tokens players have will be removed if they have any.

I have never seen myself lose tokens twice in a war.

[Mist]

Re: Quick question

If hq or armoury blow up you lose token regen bonus. And if you have tokens you will lose a few as well. But only once. It doesn't matter if armoury goes first or hq. You lose bonus timer either ways. Also you lose a few tokens as mentioned, but only once not twice.

[KOFOLA]

Re: Quick question

I always thought if hq went down first you lose timer and when armory goes down then you lose your token or scenario 2 if armory goes down you lose both timer and token.

[Ҝιττү]

Re: Quick question

I always thought if hq went down first you lose timer and when armory goes down then you lose your token or scenario 2 if armory goes down you lose both timer and token.

If either building goes down, it does not matter which goes down first, timer becomes 5:00 and a portion of held tokens are lost.

[Joe404]

Re: Quick question

I know the timer changes to 5 minutes but I've never noticed my token count going down?

[Quaranj]

Re: Quick question

It happens. Even if you're not holding them.

I have been waiting the countdown only to get token go to tap token. No tokens. "Oh, guess hq dropped" then war log catches up on 2nd device showing the DESTROYED.

Can confirm for the rest, behaviour is the same whether HQ or Armory drop.

I know some were confused by being stunned when either drops as that doubles your token timer to 10 minutes. Some thought that was the impact of the loss of the 2nd involved building but it is the stun effect once either is down.

[OneHoop]

Re: Quick question

I haven't tested but I'm pretty sure the 5 minute token timer is applied retroactively to all tokens "accumulated " since the last server update which if you haven't spent tokens in a while means that you lose ~40% of tokens since then. If true, then everyone should spend a token before hq/armory fall.

[Andy_CO]

Re: Quick question

I can confirm this--it's been like this for at least 4 years that I can think of. If you lose the armory or HQ, token timer immediately goes to 5:00, and if you have tokens you haven't burned yet, the game will retroactively take tokens away so that you have as many as you would have had, if the 5:00 timer had been going on since the beginning. It does the same thing if you have Gunslinger in your EvE loadout and swap him out and either use a token or refresh. (You can switch to, say, a jobs lineup outside of battle if you're leveling, and you won't lose tokens or timer, as long as you switch back before spending a token).

[Expeditus]

Re: Quick question

Do the hardened bunker shields drop too if you take out HQ? If not, why not?

[Quaranj]

Re: Quick question

Do the hardened bunker shields drop too if you take out HQ? If not, why not?

No.. they stay up.

I don't know the official reason but it likely has to do with the fact that if shields dropped with the HQ, the team that took out the HQ would essentially be penalized by having potential battle points subtracted from the match. IE: If the shields dropped, your demo toons would lose the ability to collect a number of battle points from hitting those shields in a match.

This would be horrible for higher level empires and force a really weird strategy change.

It would force them to clear all the shields prior to dropping the HQ just to milk the maximum number of battle points out of the match. (Because battle points factor into rank)