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    Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    What determines the winner in an empire war when points are even? I have been in a number of cases with points equality but it was every time the other team that won. For a while I considered that maybe the first to reach that count might be the winner, but that is not the case.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    It's considered a loss for both empires

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Yep. Both teams lose

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Both teams lose in case of a tie

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Who would win in this scenario (if this is possible)?
    What if your empire completely kills all opponent members and destroys all opponent buildings but ends up with less points than the other empire - who wins?

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugo View Post
    Who would win in this scenario (if this is possible)?
    What if your empire completely kills all opponent members and destroys all opponent buildings but ends up with less points than the other empire - who wins?
    Whoever has more points..

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by donutdick View Post
    Whoever has more points..
    Yup you can destroy and kill everyone and still lose. Probably the worst rule in the game. Destroy an enemy and still lose.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xcali1985 View Post
    Yup you can destroy and kill everyone and still lose. Probably the worst rule in the game. Destroy an enemy and still lose.
    That "could" happen, but the probability is against 0 i guess.

    But yes: There are teams with just a couple of big toons (over lvl1k) and just small upgrades so u cant get a lots of pts from this Empires. But still can get around 100 pts and every opponent needs to get at least the same amount of pts to win.
    Last edited by p@go; 03-13-2017 at 12:37 PM.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    I think that someone posted a screenshot a long time back where they lost a war even though they have killed everyone on the other team and destroyed all of the buildings because the other team was small enough that the maximum number of points they could score was fewer than what their opponent had at the end of the war.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xcali1985 View Post
    Yup you can destroy and kill everyone and still lose. Probably the worst rule in the game. Destroy an enemy and still lose.
    I agree, that is a horrible rule. If you completely destroy the enemy you should win regardless of how many points are scored.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    It's not possible, once you kill and destroy everything and everyone. The war is over. But if you cant completely kill everything and everyone, it goes to the score card.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilolbs View Post
    It's not possible, once you kill and destroy everything and everyone. The war is over. But if you cant completely kill everything and everyone, it goes to the score card.
    That's not how it's currently programmed. Killing all enemies and buildings ends the war, but the result is ALWAYS based on SCORE.

    Which means if a team had 9 Level 2000k titans and sat in the buildings eating tokens they could kill enough of your players and hold you to a building or two and win.

    If the opponent loses the ability to fight they should lose.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Ouch. Never encountered this before. I always assumed if you destroyed the other empire, the match would end and your team won. Sort of like chess. Doesnt matter if you are losing in points if you trap the other guys king its checkmate and you win. Considering you dont want to end a match early because you lose out on CC's it seems stupid that you would have to beat a team quickly, lose out on CC's in order to score a win. Seems like losing in this scenario would net you more CC which doesn't make any sense.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Trying to wrap my head around this but I think I get it...if a empire only has 5 guys that are level 4000 and are active enough to stay alive they still have 9 buildings the other empire has to burn down. In the case the other empire gets them down including the buildings the war would end. If somehow the big beasts scored more points upon wars end they would win? Even though the other empire took down the beasts and thier buildings first? Kinda makes sense if we are going by a points calculation but this is something that we would rarely see right? Or is it something the future has in store for us the longer this game is out?

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Cold war rules, it's M.A.D.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aprilwine View Post
    Trying to wrap my head around this but I think I get it...if a empire only has 5 guys that are level 4000 and are active enough to stay alive they still have 9 buildings the other empire has to burn down. In the case the other empire gets them down including the buildings the war would end. If somehow the big beasts scored more points upon wars end they would win? Even though the other empire took down the beasts and thier buildings first? Kinda makes sense if we are going by a points calculation but this is something that we would rarely see right? Or is it something the future has in store for us the longer this game is out?
    Rarity of the rule being applied is irrelevant. The rule still exists, which means it should change.

    Secondly, it doesn't make sense. If my country is at war with your country and I level your entire country and kill all its people, just because you shot and killed more of my people, you still lose the war.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Rarity of the rule being applied is irrelevant. The rule still exists, which means it should change.

    Secondly, it doesn't make sense. If my country is at war with your country and I level your entire country and kill all its people, just because you shot and killed more of my people, you still lose the war.

    Um Vietnam war. 🤔
    But kids that another story. Let's move on.

    MENACE

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aprilwine View Post
    Trying to wrap my head around this but I think I get it...if a empire only has 5 guys that are level 4000 and are active enough to stay alive they still have 9 buildings the other empire has to burn down. In the case the other empire gets them down including the buildings the war would end. If somehow the big beasts scored more points upon wars end they would win? Even though the other empire took down the beasts and thier buildings first? Kinda makes sense if we are going by a points calculation but this is something that we would rarely see right? Or is it something the future has in store for us the longer this game is out?
    Someone would have to show me the math. I wouldn't think that 5 toons would have enough tokens to score enough points to top the points of an eventual complete destruction.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darwin333 View Post
    Someone would have to show me the math. I wouldn't think that 5 toons would have enough tokens to score enough points to top the points of an eventual complete destruction.
    I've seen heavies with the right loadout take down buildings with 4-5 tokens. 800+ demo hits.

    I've seen one shot snipers and sins with over 700 decap. I've seen enforcers with some high demo.

    It's possible with Layla, frank, viper, vice, envy, combinations you can get a lot of tokens.

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    Re: Empire wars point equality - who wins ?

    1) Yes ur are right. Although i am sure that wont happen, it could. So, that should get changed. If a team gets destroyed completely it should loose, no matter who is in the lead at that time of game. (What comes in my mind: How do we know that this isnt the case now? When it never happend before )
    2) The original question was "what happens at a draw": Still, both teams loose, and that is good the way it is.

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