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    Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Hello UE Crime Lords,

    You may have heard whispers about some thugs out there are carrying valuable items from previous jobs and battles. During the PvP Heist, you have a chance to figure out who they really are and beat the items out of them.

    Event Duration:

    02/25/2017 - 02/28/2017 (12:00pm PST)

    How to play:

    - You need Underworld Empire 3.21 or above to play this event.

    - When event is active, clicking on the banner will redirect you to the PvP battle list. In the battle list, there should be a blood skull icon on the side of Penelope, click on that will show you the event progress.

    - To get rewards, you need to attack and WIN other players, and there will be a chance for them to drop rewards.

    - You CANNOT get 2 rewards drop from the same player, so if you already got the rewards from player A, move on from him. You can check this by clicking on the blood skull button.

    - After you collect 10 rewards from other players, the event is finished for you and you won’t be able to get more rewards from anybody.

    - Rewards drop chance on a player is affected by your level and the target’s level. The higher level of the target, the better drop chance you get. Assuming the base drop rate is X% (when attacker level = target level), the best drop rate you can get is 3X%, and the worst drop rate you can get is 0.33X%.

    - For multiple stamina attack, drop chance will be multiplied by stamina spend. For example, if you do a 80 stamina attack on the same level player, your drop rate will be 80X%.

    - Targets you get drop from don’t really lose the items. Rewards are given by the system.

    Rewards:

    15 Rare Shards, 3 Epic Shards and 5 Mysterious Tokens will drop from 10 different players.

    By the way...

    This is the first PvP heist event and there might be some unexpected things happening. We will be there ready to fix things and apologize in advance if we had to suspend the event for a while. If we suspend the event, players will be noticed, and progress should be saved. Just don’t keep using stamina in PvP for the event until you are noticed it’s back on.

    Thank you,


    Updates: (02/26/2017)

    So this event hasn't really experienced any critical technical bugs so far. However I see a good number of players are complaining about the drop rate and cost for this heist. I think I need to clarify something more here about this event:

    - Reward scheme for this event is different from doing Jobs and Bosses, which is pretty much consistent. It's more like rolling crate for Epic/Rare LTs. The expected average cost for this event is by design similar to Job Mini Event, but some players are luckier and some are not. I understand this may not be that friendly to some players. But for this first event, nothing is going to be changed. We will tweak how the rewards drop to make players happy in next event after we finished analysis on the result of this one and considered player feedbacks here.

    - This event is designed primarily for what we considered normal players (stamina from 250 - 1000) but if you have really low stamina say 100 or something, that's not helpful. Players with base stamina below 250 will start getting punished. Fresh new player is not going to have crazy advantage in this event. They will be treated like 250 base stamina players, and free stamina regeneration over time will help those people get something.

    - For players who have more than 1000 stamina, expected refill cost will start dropping, so if you are a double LSI (2000 stamina), I would expect you to spend less than a 1000 stamina player, if you both are hitting the same level players and win. However if you are a big LSI, we don't expect you to win players above your level, unless you have great LTs or catch someone on a weak loadout.

    - Base drop rate is 0.06% if your stamina is between 250 and 1000. Winning players similar level/as high as possible will definitely increase the drop rate. For example if you are level 3000 with 1000 base stamina, hitting level 9000 or above will get you 0.18% drop rate per stamina, hitting level 1000 or below will get you 0.02% drop rate per stamina. That's a HUGE difference. An example in between would be hitting level 2000 target will get you 0.04% drop rate per stamina. I'm throwing out these numbers to give you a better idea about what you are running into.

    - Also, because the reward dropping is very much like rolling crates, if you don't care about the XP/Cash/BP return and feel you have a bad luck dropping stuff, stop doing it and wait for another time or try to search for better targets, it will save you a ton of stamina if you pick the right targets to grind on. That's just my suggestion.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 02-27-2017 at 06:32 AM.

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Cool idea. Sounds like an event that favors bsi toons.

    Might I ask what said rewards are?

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    The rewards are stated above

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    The rewards are stated above
    Edited by Duke 5 minutes after I asked😁



    Thanks Duke. 👍

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    There goes my UE bank account😅

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by UWE_Duke View Post
    - Targets you get drop from dont really lose the items. Rewards are given by the system.
    Excellent event idea except for the part stated above. The appeal of PvP is the competition to have the best toon and in a real competition, the losers walk away empty-handed. You could throw in some lame participation prize to keep the losers happy, but the good prizes should go to the ones who really earn it.

    Here's an idea for the next event:

    Every player that opts in to the event starts with 10 rewards. The event is completed when you accumulate 50 total rewards (your rewards can no longer be stolen once you've completed). Only the top 20% of players will win. Top 20% would not just be based on level or strength, but determination to win. With plenty of rewards available from different level players, a lower level player could easily win if they stay active in the event long enough to complete it.

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko View Post
    Excellent event idea except for the part stated above. The appeal of PvP is the competition to have the best toon and in a real competition, the losers walk away empty-handed. You could throw in some lame participation prize to keep the losers happy, but the good prizes should go to the ones who really earn it.

    Here's an idea for the next event:

    Every player that opts in to the event starts with 10 rewards. The event is completed when you accumulate 50 total rewards (your rewards can no longer be stolen once you've completed). Only the top 20% of players will win. Top 20% would not just be based on level or strength, but determination to win. With plenty of rewards available from different level players, a lower level player could easily win if they stay active in the event long enough to complete it.
    Sounds like a good idea. I'll think about it.

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by UWE_Duke View Post
    Sounds like a good idea. I'll think about it.
    Thanks Duke!

    Also leader board for names of Top 100 fastest to complete and extra bonuses for first 100, first 1000 to complete etc...

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    "- You CANNOT get 2 rewards drop from the same player, so if you already got the rewards from player A, move on from him. You can check this by clicking on the blood skull button.

    - After you collect 10 rewards from other players, the event is finished for you and you wont be able to get more rewards from anybody.

    Rewards:

    15 Rare Shards, 3 Epic Shards and 5 Mysterious Tokens will drop from 10 different players. "


    I am curious as to how there are 23 rewards available, but you can only get one drop per person, and it seems you can only get drops from ten people. Doesn't that mean we can only get 10/23 possible drops?

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bioshock View Post
    "- You CANNOT get 2 rewards drop from the same player, so if you already got the rewards from player A, move on from him. You can check this by clicking on the blood skull button.

    - After you collect 10 rewards from other players, the event is finished for you and you wont be able to get more rewards from anybody.

    Rewards:

    15 Rare Shards, 3 Epic Shards and 5 Mysterious Tokens will drop from 10 different players. "


    I am curious as to how there are 23 rewards available, but you can only get one drop per person, and it seems you can only get drops from ten people. Doesn't that mean we can only get 10/23 possible drops?
    One drop can contain multiple type/amount of rewards, job heist does the same.

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by UWE_Duke View Post
    One drop can contain multiple type/amount of rewards, job heist does the same.
    Does this mean we are guaranteed to get all 23, or is there a random chance to fall short involved?

    Also, thank you for the quick and helpful responses.

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Look forward to this one, thank you.

    Thanks also for increasing the frequency of these heists.
    Last edited by Shifty; 02-25-2017 at 05:57 AM.

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by UWE_Duke View Post
    - After you collect 10 rewards from other players, the event is finished for you and you won’t be able to get more rewards from anybody.
    Will people still be able to get rewards from you or will there be a notification affixed next to your toon that you are "finished" with the event?

    To that point, is everyone automatically opted into this event?

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by NocRob View Post
    Will people still be able to get rewards from you or will there be a notification affixed next to your toon that you are "finished" with the event?

    To that point, is everyone automatically opted into this event?
    Seems to me that people will still be able to battle you.

    Nice job Duke! Thanks for another mini-event! You all are doing great!

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    Great stuff!! Already putting up frequent competitions where rewards are accessible for everyone! Glad you took the game over! Keep up the good work!!

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    hey duke why dont u share number "x" (the chance to get reward) with us before the event starts.
    is that a low chance?

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper9292 View Post
    hey duke why dont u share number "x" (the chance to get reward) with us before the event starts.
    is that a low chance?
    It's based on the difference between your level and your target's level, so it changes with every target. If I'm reading it correctly I like it - encourages hitting your level or higher.

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Not to be a wet blanket but I wasn't sure if I'd like a PvP event - I am actually pretty excited for this one!

    Some silly questions now:
    Does it affect our regular PvP points/ranking?
    Do the wins/losses become part of our lifelong totals?
    Does the current BR system apply (above and below 25)?

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    p.s. It looks like you just have to win against someone to have the chance to drop rewards - if you get a reward pop-up or whatever - you can but don't have to take them to execution. If you're low stamina or free playing then move on to your next target. (Caveat:if I interpreted the info correctly)


    Good luck everyone!!!!!!

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    Re: Information about Battle Heist (PvP Mini Event)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulu View Post
    It's based on the difference between your level and your target's level, so it changes with every target. If I'm reading it correctly I like it - encourages hitting your level or higher.
    yes but duke said is 0.33*x%<<x% << 3x%
    why not tell us the "x" so we know what to expect ..what if some bugs happen and we dont get items but we dont report it bcz we think the chance might be low thats why we aint getting rewards.
    the max chance and min chance should be made public.

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